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Poilievre says Conservatives’ affordability focus unites party as Tories manage latest defection

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Last updated: 2025/12/14 at 4:33 PM
Press Room Published December 14, 2025
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Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre says his party’s focus on affordability “is what unites all Conservatives,” as the Tories grapple with another MP crossing the floor to join the Liberals — bringing them one seat shy of forming a majority government.

“Affordability, affordability, affordability. Canadians cannot afford grocery prices because of [Prime Minister Mark Carney’s] hidden Liberal taxes on food,” Poilievre said when asked what he’s telling caucus members to make sure nobody else defects.

The Conservative leader sat down for a year-end interview on Rosemary Barton Live just days after Markham-Unionville MP Michael Ma surprised Parliament Hill on Thursday and announced he was leaving the party for the Liberals.

Poilievre denied that his leadership was a problem. Instead, he accused the prime minister of “trying to manipulate his way through backroom deals to get that majority.”

“My message to Mark Carney is that you want a costly majority government to drive up taxes and deficits, then you have to go to the Canadian people and have them vote for it, not do it by dirty backroom deals,” Poilievre told host Rosemary Barton.

WATCH | Watch Rosemary Barton’s full interview with Pierre Poilievre:

FULL INTERVIEW | Pierre Poilievre speaks with CBC’s Rosemary Barton after 2nd MP defection

CBC News chief political correspondent speaks to Conservative Party Leader Pierre Poilievre about his leadership following Michael Ma crossing the floor to join the Liberals. They also discuss the Ottawa-Alberta agreement that lays the foundation for a new oil pipeline.

On Thursday evening, Ma said he made his decision after hearing from constituents in his riding.

“This is a time for unity and decisive action for Canada’s future,” Ma wrote.

“In that spirit, I have concluded that Prime Minister Mark Carney is offering the steady, practical approach we need to deliver on the priorities I hear every day while door-knocking in Markham-Unionville.”

In November, Nova Scotia MP Chris d’Entremont announced he was crossing the floor to join the Liberals. He said he felt he was “part of a frat house rather than a serious political party” when he was with the Conservatives.

Liberals claim there are more disgruntled Conservatives

A Liberal source told CBC News that Ma met with Carney on Thursday afternoon before announcing that he would join the government caucus. He attended the Liberal holiday party that night — leaving a Conservative MP without a Secret Santa gift.

In the time since, Liberals have claimed there are other Conservative MPs who are increasingly disgruntled with Poilievre’s leadership and could soon be joining Carney’s team.

Prime Minister Mark Carney raises the hand of Michael Ma
Prime Minister Mark Carney raises the hand of Michael Ma, MP for Markham-Unionville, who crossed the floor from the Conservatives to the Liberals hours earlier, at the Liberal caucus holiday party in Ottawa, on Dec. 11. (Justin Tang/The Canadian Press)

“I think there are some that will do some soul-searching during the vacation, the Christmas period,” said Finance Minister François-Philippe Champagne in an interview that aired Sunday morning.

He said some in the Opposition “don’t want to oppose” just for the sake of fighting the government at every turn.

“My sense is that some are at unease with this situation,” Champagne said.

At the beginning of December, Ma stood up in the House of Commons and criticized the Liberal government for the rising cost of food and its impact on Canadian seniors.

WATCH | Liberal House leader asked about floor-crossing:

Liberal House leader asked about floor-crossing, suggests ‘there are others’ but offers no names

Liberal House leader Steven MacKinnon, appearing at an event about high-speed rail on Friday, was asked about Ontario MP Michael Ma’s decision to leave the Conservatives and join the Liberals. MacKinnon, who took aim at Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre, suggested there were others like Ma, but declined to offer any specifics.

Champagne brushed off questions about Ma’s integrity and said “what matters at the end of the day is he made the choice to join the Liberal Party and the government.

“For me, that’s what I take from that.”

Poilievre, who at the beginning of this year was considered nearly guaranteed to be Canada’s next prime minister, was asked by Barton whether he was reflecting on anything on as the year comes to a close.

“I reflect a lot on why I’m doing this,” the Conservative leader said. He mentioned seniors struggling to buy food and young people who can’t afford a down payment on a house.

“I need to give them hope. That’s what this country needs now more than ever: hope that you will again be able to afford a home, hope that you can afford food, hope that you’ll be safe in your streets,” Poilievre said.

“And that will be the obsession of my leadership: to provide hope for a better future.”

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